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Kanyatta · Jan 17, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

Paragons wearing a very similar gem takes away from the class' individuality and creates a poor design.

Wouldn't a helmet take away from the Warrior's originality? Did Assassin masks take the originality from the Ranger masks? Did Monks and Necros both having Scar Patterns take away from their originality?

Master Sword Keeper · Jan 18, 2008, 01:34 AM // 01:34

No you twat.... This one means, the color and actual design in basic.

Yes warrior's and rangers have an originallity, in no point do assasins have any conjunction in with rangers, They both wear masks yes, but share no design similarities,

A para helm is just what we need.

/signed

Nevin · Jan 18, 2008, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanyatta

Wouldn't a helmet take away from the Warrior's originality? Did Assassin masks take the originality from the Ranger masks? Did Monks and Necros both having Scar Patterns take away from their originality?

Monks have tattoos get yo'facts straight G.

Stupid Shizno · Jan 18, 2008, 03:04 AM // 03:04

i dont see kanyattas argument, monks and necros do not need to wear tattoos or scar paterns, they are clothed armor as well. as for the head piece, mhenlo looks pro with his tattoo on his head.

its pretty simple to get the reasoning a paragon needs a helment

this go over them.

paragons have shields
paragons have melee weapons.
paragons have adrenaline based skills.

all these the warrior have too, but will a paragon be a warrior with a helmet?
mmmm no, i think i can still tell the difference between a paragon and a warrior based of armor.

and i want the paragon to have a helm, it would make him pro.
and it dosnt even make me want to make a pargaon.

lyra_song · Jan 18, 2008, 03:12 AM // 03:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanyatta

Wouldn't a helmet take away from the Warrior's originality? Did Assassin masks take the originality from the Ranger masks? Did Monks and Necros both having Scar Patterns take away from their originality?

The warrior ALREADY has the most original helmets in the game. Go look at a page of warrior helms and find me some common designs. Other than reskins, warriors have the greatest variety of head pieces.

Its very difficult to take away anything from these designs because they are already so different from each other, that they share little in common other than being helmets.

Creating a set of helmets that fits the themes of Paragons (whos armors share little in common with warrior armor) WITHOUT stepping on the toes of the warrior's designs is easy if they share a common design theme which ALREADY exists in all paragon armor.

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Assassin masks follow a different asthetic from Ranger masks.
Assassin masks are more form fitting, Ranger masks hang off the face (basically a handkerchief).

Plus.

Assassin masks MATCH their respective armors.
Ranger masks MATCH their respective armors.

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Monks have head tattoos and Necros have face scar patterns. Thats significantly different.

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Did you actually see Paragon and Elementalist pieces side by side?

The various Elementalist headpieces do not share enough in common to have common themes. Factions have auras in particular. This makes Paragon headpieces fit into their style very easily.

And the fact that the Paragon crests do not share design elements from the armors they are supposed to be with, does not further help the situation.

Turtle222 · Jan 18, 2008, 02:32 PM // 14:32

A paragon is the closest thing to a hoplite that i can get. I WANT A HOPLITE!

/signed.

Now if only spears were melee weapons...

gremlin · Jan 18, 2008, 03:45 PM // 15:45

Paragons wear helmets ! how utterly ridiculous.

With all the historical comments one would have thought they would have researched it more.
Helmets screw up your hearing and speaking and forgive me here if I err but don't paragons depend on Shouts ?

I have done ancient and medieval reenactment for years and have worn "and still own" a helmet based on the greek full face helm.
You can hear ok if you don't have earpieces attached but if you yell it echoes around the helm.
Many medieval helms have the same problem, Its a case of visor up yell an order and visor down before you get an arrow in the face.

I know im being picky in a fantasy setting but if you want to use historical reasons for something to exist then expect historical reasons why it shouldnt.

Now can we have them please because they look really good /signed

isamu kurosawa · Jan 18, 2008, 04:15 PM // 16:15

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Originally Posted by gremlin

You can hear ok if you don't have earpieces attached but if you yell it echoes around the helm.

Just preted thats the mechanic behind echo skills then.

Darksun · Jan 18, 2008, 04:20 PM // 16:20

I think we all know they aren't going to do this for players, but whatever...

I'd like to at least have a winged crown like Kormir:

Or maybe they could make a winged crest instead of a slightly modified Elementalist jewel.

BenjZee · Jan 18, 2008, 04:24 PM // 16:24

it would be cool but id doubt they would even consider them. when i read information about paragons before nf was released i asuumed they would get helmets and armor with wings on them. Its weird how warriors only get helms, maybe they should consider in a future expansion or gw2 to let all charcters get a helmet, maybe even tattoos, gems etc

Meo Yeong · Jan 18, 2008, 05:24 PM // 17:24

/signed

New helms like that would be nice

Abedeus · Jan 18, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25

/signed

Paragon without a helmet is not a paragon. I mean come on, a soldier without full armor? Even in 300 they had helmets -.-

Elisa · Jan 18, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by gremlin

Paragons wear helmets ! how utterly ridiculous.

With all the historical comments one would have thought they would have researched it more.
Helmets screw up your hearing and speaking and forgive me here if I err but don't paragons depend on Shouts ?

I have done ancient and medieval reenactment for years and have worn "and still own" a helmet based on the greek full face helm.
You can hear ok if you don't have earpieces attached but if you yell it echoes around the helm.
Many medieval helms have the same problem, Its a case of visor up yell an order and visor down before you get an arrow in the face.

I know im being picky in a fantasy setting but if you want to use historical reasons for something to exist then expect historical reasons why it shouldnt.

Now can we have them please because they look really good /signed

What you say is true, but do you often wear magical swirling gems during your reenactments?

We're not talking about how it would work in real life, we're talking about what would fit the class in-game. If your point was going to fly, all "shouts" from warriors, like "Watch Yourself!" and "Shields Up!" should be removed as well. It's just about what looks cool and what would fit the class, but yeah.

Go cool Para helms! :P

And like stated before, the Paragon helms in no way need to tread on the Warrior designs. Warriors have an immense variety of helmet designs, yet none that look remotely like a Corinthian. If you make the Corinthian helm design linked to the Paragon (as it is perfect for the armour they wear) the lines wouldn't cross at all.

Darksun · Jan 18, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36

I wish they would just tell us "NO", if they have no intention of doing anything remotely like this..

Personally, I think the Paras & Dervish got shafted in terms of all armor. Especially female Paras.

Abonai Laguna · Jan 18, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43

like the kormir helm tho the rest sux

gremlin · Jan 18, 2008, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by Darksun

I wish they would just tell us "NO", if they have no intention of doing anything remotely like this..

Personally, I think the Paras & Dervish got shafted in terms of all armor. Especially female Paras.

Agreed
Oh if there was one thing I would like to happen on forums it would be a list every 3 months or so with the main threads answered
Even a maybe answer would be better than nothing.

Ok I know its never going to happen but hey I can wish.

Edited
As for the Helmet idea I do admit to thinking of the paragon as a Valkyrie style warrior when I first read of them.
I did look through Valkyrie names before creating mine "Sigrun Elonadis" so a nice winged helm would be good.

Wouldnt mind a flying horse too

canto · Jan 19, 2008, 05:45 AM // 05:45

Great idea. i gots an idea attached.

/signed

Jumping Is Uselss · Jan 19, 2008, 06:14 AM // 06:14

/signed

would be nice to have a helm for paragons, but I know Anet will never deliver this request.

Richardt · Jan 19, 2008, 06:35 AM // 06:35

/signed

I would sooooooooooooo love a paragon helm. Except if it has a broom top. I want headgear, not a duster

chowmein69 · Jan 19, 2008, 06:55 AM // 06:55

/signed.

will be cool if they have a helm like the spartans